Trichotillomania: more on 10,000 days

i did it, it comes up really jumbled near the end. think you could post yours up here so i can tell if i did it right?

Anonymous : Wed May 17, 06:36:00 PM

It gets heavy in the end ... but its not at all jumbled. I dont think I should put it online teh RIAA migh sue me ;). just try a few combinations and you'll get it.

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spo0nman : Wed May 17, 08:49:00 PM

It sounds exactly perfect if you make Wings of Marie end when 10,00 Days end... not make Wings start when Virginti Tres ends... just my results.

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Dark Chili : Wed May 17, 09:09:00 PM

How does Audacity work? I couldn't make the two reacks end at the same time:(

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Anonymous : Sat May 20, 05:47:00 PM

If you don't want to make it yourself and if you have a BitTorrent client, then download it from this site. http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/347479/ I'm not posting my copy due to what spo0nman said and blah blah blah blah blah. (I am not legaly liable for you downloading the mixed track if you don't have the album)

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Dark Chili : Sat May 20, 10:02:00 PM

anonymous:

step 1: In audacity, goto Projet->Import Audio menu, you can import mp3/wav.

step 2: Import all three songs.

step 3: choose the icon that looks like <--> to drag and move the songs, follow dark chill's advice, (It sounds exactly perfect if you make Wings of Marie end when 10,00 Days end). It does sound better that way.

If you fail follow "dark chill"'s advice and try to download an existing version.

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spo0nman : Sat May 20, 10:25:00 PM

flaming lips did it with four discs. neurosis/tribes of neurot have done it a couple times as well. neither, however, have been able to pull it off so nicely, with wonderful plays on both staccato guitar tracks and vocals. unreal.

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bendyourmind : Sun May 21, 02:40:00 AM

Yeah it helps if you zoom in alot on audacity so it makes matching up the tracks a great deal easier. The staccato breakdown at the end is almost religious,. Just when you think it is going to divulge into nonsense and noice it falls back into perfect sync and harmony. This is the coolest thing since Dark side of the moon and Wizard of Oz sync'ed.

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Anonymous : Tue May 23, 12:47:00 PM

nice siync, better than flaming lips and neurosis.....all you hafta do is sync the end cuz it has the sam lyrics, very much th esame sound info.....zooom and sync there...thats it...its great.....enyone notice that the time of lipan conjuring + lost keys = viginiti tres...theey have the same time...i wouldnt be suprised if this album was far more than it seems at the far sight..

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Anonymous : Wed May 24, 01:16:00 AM

It doesn't quite sync up like everyone says. Yes they all play on a lot of same figures, especially near the end (the lyrics are identical there). But you can get about two bars to line up before you end up hearing one phrase before the other, musically. Pan the tracks left and right over headphones and you'll see what i mean. Also during the beginning of Wings for Marie, those hits I think should all be on the down beat. If you line the first one up perfect, it always hits on the and of three, and other 'weak' beats. But I will say this. But I will say this, if you could slow down Wings for Marie slightly, it would make a lot more sense. Kudos to whoever found this rarity. It does sound really cool.

Tool did it again, only ten times better. You can hear stylings from every other album on this one. One track even has kind of the sound of A Perfect Circle. But yet this album would also stand on its own. I love it more each time I listen to it

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Anonymous : Wed May 24, 10:33:00 PM

Best way i get to sync is by:

1 dropping the songs in Audacity like spo0nman says (thanks for the link to the download !!)

2 dragging the end of Wings.. to the end of 10,000 like dark chili suggested

3 60% LEFT on the 1st track (10,000), 60% RIGHT on Virginti Tres and Wings of Marie

4 GO TO AROUND MINUTE 9:30,...HERE YOU FIND THE SAME RIFFS, VOCALS AND DRUMS ! EASY TO LINE UP HERE !!!!

Amasing how this is put together, true alchemy !!

Will they tour more in the U.S. after Japan ??? Does anyone know ??

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Anonymous : Fri Jun 02, 03:28:00 PM

line up the two heavy riffs that are at about 9:13s... the rest of the lyrics echoe each other, and i think this how it's meant to be, it sounds amazing. looks like tool gave us a hidden track after all.. i'm going to call it "10,000 Days For Marie"

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Anonymous : Sat Jun 03, 06:23:00 AM

Im having a problem, when i upload the songs they show up as like 2 seconds long. what am i doing wrong? im importing them from WMP, but thats not wrong is it?

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 05, 10:15:00 PM

Audacity doesn't support WMA files, waht format did you rip the cd in?

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Dark Chili : Tue Jun 06, 09:41:00 PM

I ripped it in plain old .wav ... using lame.

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spo0nman : Tue Jun 06, 09:45:00 PM

exactly sychronization appears in 9:14 of the track,cause 9+14=23(number of synchronism)..viginti tres means 23 in latin.viginti tres is the 11th track of the album.result: 11.23--->1,1,2,3-->the fibonacci sequence which tool uses in lateralus.

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Anonymous : Fri Jun 09, 05:01:00 AM

Wow. This is a Herculean task friends. Getting both Wings of Marie AND 10,000 Days to synch perfectly is a hell of a lot harder than it sounds. At least, it was for me. Whether I lined Wings up with Viginti Tres or the end of 10k, it didn't matter. Eventually, I had to get scientific about this shit and figure out exactly where, by the milisecond, each song kicked into it's respective breakdown so one wouldn't start sooner/later than the other. But, once I achieved that, the results were beyond badass. I'm sort of stuck in between thinking that this was done on purpose (at least Viginti and 10k was) or just a huge fucking coincidence found by someone with waaaay too much time on their hands. Like Dark Side of Oz, this is one of those mindblowing coincidences that leaves you with a mental image of the band in a darkened room, surrounded by archaic books of magick and wearing dark robes, selling their souls for the ability to rock harder than any mere mortal has the ability to. Either that or the band really are the geniuses we've always known them to be and they decided to prove it once and for all with irrefutable evidence.

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Anonymous : Sat Jun 10, 01:09:00 AM

Quit being a faggot and ripping in wma.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:35:00 AM

Also, this isn't that big of a deal. You can do the same thing with two Nickleback songs but it doesn't change the fact that both bands suck.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:35:00 AM

Also, this isn't that big of a deal. You can do the same thing with two Nickleback songs but it doesn't change the fact that both bands suck.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:36:00 AM

Did you just say Tool sucks? WTF do you listen to, pop-punk?! Go fuck a tree.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:39:00 AM

will somebody just post this up so those of use without the inclination to do all the stuff above can at least hear it?!

im sure the riiaaaiiiaaa dont give a rats ass.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:39:00 AM

Makes you wonder about prior albums...

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:42:00 AM

*cough* http://www.snoopy.force9.co.uk/10000_Days_Secret_Megamix.mp3 *cough* Sowwy I hab a bib ob a code

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:43:00 AM

Why the hell is everyone so impressed when Tool does something like this? It may seem intelligent compared to the relative idiocy found on today's radio waves, but they are by no means smarter than the average bear. It really takes very little effort to do something like this. it takes less effort to pull off some of their other tricks. (I remember the whole double spiral thing.) Seriously, please stop addressing Tool as "genius." Really all they do is make stoners and pseudo-intellectuals feel superior for listening to them. That and play shitty music. Flame away. Or delete my post. Whatever... You can't fight reality.

PS: It is still extremely cool that you guys figured this out. Just not at all cool that it was done. Just another lame hidden gimic to make them seem like they actually have a deeper meaning. The kids will eat it up if it's packaged properly.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:44:00 AM

Call it 10,023 Days for Marie.

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Monster : Mon Jun 19, 08:45:00 AM

http://www.snoopy.force9.co.uk/10000_Days_Secret_Megamix.mp3

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:49:00 AM

great find, thanks for sharing it! i am listening to it right now, sounds great

this is nothing like the nickleback crap out there, thanks again for posting this, i found it through digg

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the dastard : Mon Jun 19, 08:54:00 AM

>>Also, this isn't that big of a deal. You can do the same thing with two Nickleback songs but it doesn't change the fact that both bands suck.

Fuckin seconded.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:57:00 AM

You can tell by listening to Tool that they are a rather intelligent band. If all you hear is crunchy guitars and double bass drum, well, then you're not using your ears or your brain nearly enough. That doesn't make Tool "shitty music". And the fact that four such technically and creatively endowed artists ended up together, making their kind of albums every four or five years on a major label, in a genre of music that is not typically revered for having much cerebral value, is certainly worth celebrating in itself.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:57:00 AM

Why did you crop off the beginning of 10,000 days. Yours ends about 10:20, but 10,000 days is longer than that. Is that what you had to do to get them to line up?

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 09:24:00 AM

You guys who hate Tool need to go back to your trendy emo-screamo/techno-pop shit and let the rest of us attempt to push some musical boundaries.

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The Nog : Mon Jun 19, 09:31:00 AM

Hey. Let's all find a blog about another band and tell the fans how much they suck!

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 09:44:00 AM

whats the difference between a whiny queer, and an emo kid?

yeah, i don't know either.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 09:46:00 AM

nog,
if you feel Tool is really out there pushing musical boundries, check your ears for doo-doo as they're likely right up yr own ass, alongwith the rest of yr head.

Perhaps lay off the dope... or maybe do more.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 09:48:00 AM

You guys who hate emo-screamo/techno-pop need to go back to your trendy Tool shit and let the rest of us attempt to push some musical boundaries.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 09:51:00 AM

ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT ALL OF THIS....

THERE IS NO SHIT MUSIC, ONLY YOUR OPINION OF ANY ONE BAND.

ANYONE WHO DOESN'T SEE THE INTELIGENCE IN AT LEAST CERTAIN ASPECTS OF TOOL'S MUSIC.... HASN'T EXPLORED IT ENOUGH.

EVEN THEIR SONG STRUCTURE, EVEN JUST THE TRANSITIONS THAT THEY USE ARE REALLY QUITE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM ANYONE.

NOT TO MENTION LYRICALLY, I DON'T KNOW MANY OR ANY OTHER BANDS THAT TELL A STORY OR SEND A MESSAGE IN THE WAY TOOL DOES. HE DEFENITLY HAS A WAY OF CONVEYING AN IDEA OR THOUGHT IN A PICTUREQUE WAY THAT NO OTHER DOES.

(THEY HAVE BEEN MY FAVOURITE BAND SINCE THEIR BIRTH, AND I'M BIASED YES, HOWEVER, TAKE A LESSON IN SONG WRITING/STRUCTURE/DYNAMICS/DIMENSIONS/MELODY/LYRIC WRITING/EXPERIMENTATION IN TOOLS WORK. STUDY IT, DON'T JUST PASS JUDGEMENT WITHOUT ANYTHING TO BACK UP WHAT YOUR SAYING.

IN A DAY AND AGE THAT EVERYONE HAS A SAY AND EVERYONE IS A SMARTASS INTERNET NERD (GUILTY MYSELF), PUTTING UP DUMB COMMENTS TO PISS OTHER FANS OFF IS JUST HEINOUS. AND BOGUS. AND WHY DON'T YOU EXPAND YOUR MIND, EXPAND YOUR MUSICAL KNOWLEDGE AND LEARN SOMETHING NEW AS OPPOSED TO BEING A MOSQUITO AND ANNOYING EVERYONE AROUND YOU.

SIFTER

WWW.MYSPACE.COM/SIFTER

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 09:51:00 AM

Perhaps it's just an audio illusion because all of their shit sounds the same.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 09:55:00 AM

William Hung

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 09:55:00 AM

Fighting about something as subjective as music is totally lame. Love Tool or hate them, they make an effort to present their music in a creative form. Love it or hate it. It exists.

Telling everyone you personal think tool sucks does not change anybody's mind on the subject.

Explaining all the subtle factoids as to why the band does suck, only makes you look like a cry baby judgemental loser. Considering A. you aren't in a band OR B. no one has and will ever hear of your band. OR A+B = you are lame.

But there is one thing that has rung true thoughout all the flaming and is something we have ALL agreed on.

And that is...

YES! Nickleback truly sucks.

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DUG : Mon Jun 19, 09:57:00 AM

SIFTER-

THERE IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF SHIT MUSIC OUT THERE. A WHOLE WORLD OF UNINSPIRED, COMMERICAL, PANDERING, SIMPERING, PHONY, TRITE, NON-FUKIN-POTABLE, LOUSY MU-ZAK. WHILE YR BELOVED TOOL AINT NECESSARILY ON THE LIST, ITS OUT THERE ALRIGHT, YA HIPPIE.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 09:59:00 AM

The flaming lips did this years ago with 4 cds all meant to be played at the exact same time on the album zaireeka, except the entire album, was recorded this way, not just three songs. this is not original or unique.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:02:00 AM

HEY LOOK AT ME, MY NAME IS SIFTER AND I'M A FAGGOT WHO CAN'T FIND THE CAPS LOCK KEY. HERE LET ME SPAM MY MYSPACE LINK KAY?

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:03:00 AM

I was a huge Tool fan until I heard this album, and now I just think they're past their prime. I'm just not impressed with this one compared to their previous albums. But regardless of how my opinion of the band has changed, it is still pretty neat how it all synchs. And I must say, whoever discovered this has entirely too much time on their hands.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:05:00 AM

why is 2 songs synching up anything other than a glorious display of weak songwriting abilities?

doesn't everyone remember when the combined Nickelback songs were floating around as an example of how much they suck? why when tool does it, is it a 'hidden track' and not just further proof that tool just keeps releasing the same song over and over and over again

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bobalien : Mon Jun 19, 10:10:00 AM

"doesn't everyone remember when the combined Nickelback songs were floating around as an example of how much they suck? why when tool does it, is it a 'hidden track' and not just further proof that tool just keeps releasing the same song over and over and over again"

That can be explained simply. These two songs that sync, are parts one and two on the cd. So obviously they would have similiar parts, not only that this is even more obvious when two riffs sync identically. Howevever, the whole of the songs are quite different, which would void your argument.

Also, the other track is just some kind of ambient noise. And so it's purpose in this mix is just filler for part 2, surprisingly it works quite well, but isn't needed.

To everyone else, ignore the trolls, you're just feeding them with your retorts.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:16:00 AM

To the tool haters: You may say you hate tool and hate their fans and such, but you're still here commenting about them. Why? Why not say nothing at all and let it be if you despise them so?
Sounds like jealousy to me.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:22:00 AM

i think it is healthy that kids are listening to bands (Tool) who follow the path that RUSH has created.

more musicians, fewer computers - that's my line.

whiners can go back to listening to Fred Durst and Trent Reznor...

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:23:00 AM

any a$$hole$ that come on here to say how crappy tool is and that their music is stupid is just some snot nose punk kid who is trying to be a shit disturber... don't even pay attention to the little pricks.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:24:00 AM

I love how everyone has to have the most extreme opinion they can come up with - "Tool are geniuses pushing the musical boundaries like no one else today!" or "Tool are a stupid gimmick band and all their fans are retards!". Calm down its just a song its ok to either like or dislike something without making a complete ass of yourself over it

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:25:00 AM

sifter-let me start out by saying you are a huge bag of douche.

there is so much terrible music out there in the world, and that's not just opinion. no matter who likes it, anything created by the band simple plan will forever be branded shit, because the musical quality and the abilities required to play it are literally nothing.

it's not impossible for music to be bad and to still enjoy it. 90% of the music that came out of the 80's was terrible music, but i still have blast going around town with the volume pumped up.

and so while all of you may think tool is a band of musical geniuses, you're dead wrong. all they are doing is appealing to your 12 year old fan-boy senses. anyone with the slightest hint of creativity could make music like this, and there's no denying it. right now, i could call up four of my friends, and make up 3 songs that synched like this, and you would praise us as gods. but no.

so in all, tool is terrible, you guys suck, and quit fucking whining.

p.s. just because someone don't listen to your shitty metal doesn't mean they listen to screamo. i dunno where you found that assumption, but i hate you even more for it.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:25:00 AM

....wow, if you think the band is garbage why are you going to post about it? Just go on about your day and fuck off. Im actually into this band now because of my dad...OMG because of his dad!!! He's a baby, I can Guarantee you all that someone will now make fun of that...just because someone likes the music doesn't mean they are instantly stupid or their music sucks...and just because you don't like their music also doesnt mean the music sucks. It's all opinion, if you don't like it don't post a huge rant about why the music sucks, it's gonna be wasting your time talking about something you don't like in the first place! Im done peace out...

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:26:00 AM

band bashing is a waste of space - it's all a matter of opinion and open mind. music is personal. no one dragged you in here and forced you to listen or read OR COMMENT. if you can't say something nice (intelligent, interesting, profound) then get the hell out.
go do something creative. (anonymous - get out of my head! lol!) (^_^)

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toolicious51 : Mon Jun 19, 10:30:00 AM

btw - THANK you for Trichotillomania. What a treat for another mundane Monday.

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toolicious51 : Mon Jun 19, 10:32:00 AM

Have you seen the NIN Metropolis Synch?

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inpixels : Mon Jun 19, 10:37:00 AM

Agreed. Tool, be it "L@ME! GAY! TRASSH NIKELBKE!", or "THE BEST FUCKING BAD THAT EVER PLAYED MUSIC", is just a fucking band. Dont get me wrong, Ive gone out and bought almost everything Maynard has produced, I love almost all of it. Ive listened to songs like Passive and The Noose in the thousands of times.

None-the-less:
Oh boy! Another band knows how to use Protools interestingly!

Tool rocks, but they arnt unique by a LONG shot... Rush and Floyd had this type of music mastered years ago. (10,000 days is still holy writ as far as im concerned.)

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Seandon Mooy : Mon Jun 19, 10:38:00 AM

The reason the two songs sync up at the end is because "Wings" is an introduction to "10,000 days". I dont think any of the songs were ment to overlap like that because they didnt sound that good overlapped.

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Jason : Mon Jun 19, 10:42:00 AM

dont mean to burst anyones bubbles, but this is most likely just coincidence. the reason the harmonies fit together is that the songs are both basically one chord the entire time. listen to the bass note, its pretty much a drone the whole song. also, the tempo is slightly under 60 or 120 depending on which subdivision you're using, and that is the absolutely most common metronome marking to use. they probabaly started at 120, said (oh lets take it down a few to 117 because it sounds a bit too fast.. on both songs). also at the heavy section, it sounds horrible, doesnt fit together at all. just my 2 cents.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:46:00 AM

wow, thanks for sharing!
www.DCguide.com

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:49:00 AM

just so ya know demonoid.com requires registration but they aren't letting people register...they think they're gmail or somthing with you must be invited. how lame. why can't everyone onln be egalitarian like me instead alitists? i couldn't get audacity to work...well, i can't get gk to work either...i'm pretty stupid at figuring out how software works. so if anyone can point me to a bt tracker that doesn't require registration that'd be great. and btw i love tool and still their all time best album has to be "opiate" just can't listen to it enough...

khayman (bonus points if you get my username reference)

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:51:00 AM

I'm gonna start a band, and we'll just split the tracks of one song out over the whole album:
track 1: bass
track 2: vocals
track 3: guitar1
track 4: guitar2
track 5: drums
(etc.)

You guys will love it.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:54:00 AM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4284365265567106977&q=maynard

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 10:59:00 AM

Holy cow! If you take Nickelback's "How you remind me" and "Someday" and play them at the same time they sync! Oh man! Nickelback are musical geniuses! It flows like one song! It's amazing! It's the most incredible thing I have ever heard! You have to listen to this!

http://www.leenks.com/link488.htm

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 11:11:00 AM

. . . m e h . . .

Using this logic you could do this to just about any CD from any band.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 11:17:00 AM

wow, apparently everyone here is retarded....

first, to all those people who thing this is mindblowing and holds some secret meaning... you're basically folding the song back on itself. if you would notice for a sec, this is one song split into two tracks along with a filler of some thunder.
The titles are as follows:
Wings For Marie (Pt 1)
10,000 Days (Wings Part 2)
Things like this repeat within songs and syncing them up is nothing new and exciting. Sure its a new way to listen to the music, but its not some super-mega-secret-hidden track.

second, to those bashing tool for this. "this is one song split into two tracks along with a filler of some thunder." this doesnt make them "weaksongwriters" or "uncreative" this just shows some poor shmuck had too much time on his hands and thought he discovered the holy grail. just chill out and let the kids have their fun. after all... isnt it enough punishment to wear around a shirt with the word TOOL on the the front punishment enough...

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 11:30:00 AM

K,

I wasn't going to respond again, but hell, like i said last time we are all computer nerds with too much time on our hands and i have a few things to say.

All the critics in the house are all anonymous... that's funny..............I'LL FUCKING KILL ALL OF YOU MOTHER FUCKERS.

hehe, just kidding, i think it's all funny. even though supposedly i'm a faggot from what one of you guys or little boy's have said. how expressive of you. write a song about this blog then, you seem to be so creative in your choice of words.

Go start a band and see how easy it is to put together even a decent song. Better yet, go play it live and out of your digi-design realm.

Why can't we all just get along?

and to reply to the comment about pink floyd and rush....

I was brought up on prog-rock, and still listen to it, and comparing tool to them is redundant. There is NO original band in the planet. There is nothing that hasn't been done before and nothing can ever be created that is new. It's just an evolution of particular chord progressions and riffs, beats, melodies. It's just the way that particular band "feels" out their music. Although in tools case i think it's more systematic than just feeling things out, it's just their art, their canvas, and if you like it, cool, if not well, they never cared before why would they now.

The modern bands just present it in the way that they see fit.

and saying that anyone can do what tool does... well, for everyone else reading what you wrote, they understand many things about you that i don't need to carry on about because that would be name calling and we should all just be laughing at what each other writes on this blog shit.

other than that...

"be excellent to one another"
and....
"party on dudes"

www.myspace.com/sifter

and btw, did anyone actually go to listen to our music?

that's right....

so my mission is accomplished.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 11:46:00 AM

K,

I wasn't going to respond again, but hell, like i said last time we are all computer nerds with too much time on our hands and i have a few things to say.

All the critics in the house are all anonymous... that's funny..............I'LL FUCKING KILL ALL OF YOU MOTHER FUCKERS.

hehe, just kidding, i think it's all funny. even though supposedly i'm a faggot from what one of you guys or little boy's have said. how expressive of you. write a song about this blog then, you seem to be so creative in your choice of words.

Go start a band and see how easy it is to put together even a decent song. Better yet, go play it live and out of your digi-design realm.

Why can't we all just get along?

and to reply to the comment about pink floyd and rush....

I was brought up on prog-rock, and still listen to it, and comparing tool to them is redundant. There is NO original band in the planet. There is nothing that hasn't been done before and nothing can ever be created that is new. It's just an evolution of particular chord progressions and riffs, beats, melodies. It's just the way that particular band "feels" out their music. Although in tools case i think it's more systematic than just feeling things out, it's just their art, their canvas, and if you like it, cool, if not well, they never cared before why would they now.

The modern bands just present it in the way that they see fit.

and saying that anyone can do what tool does... well, for everyone else reading what you wrote, they understand many things about you that i don't need to carry on about because that would be name calling and we should all just be laughing at what each other writes on this blog shit.

other than that...

"be excellent to one another"
and....
"party on dudes"

www.myspace.com/sifter

and btw, did anyone actually go to listen to our music?

that's right....

so my mission is accomplished.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 11:46:00 AM

I love Tool.
I was thrilled to read about this..

But .. if Tool did this on purpose it would have been 100% synched and perfect the entire way through.
We all know Tool well enough to agree on this right?

It isnt perfect = Tool didn't do this on purpose.

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Holbek : Mon Jun 19, 11:48:00 AM

Whether you like Tool or not you can't deny the fact that they are a talented bunch of fuckers. You don't survive in the music industry for almost 15 years without having substance to your craft. Their music makes people feel something when they listen to it. A lot of it good. Much like pretty girls make my penis feel something special. King Crimson, the fathers of prog rock, who also influenced Tool, opened up for them during the Lateralus tour. How many bands influences open up for them when they tour? That'd be like me having Tool configure a firewall before I went and QA'ed it.

That's a mighty nod from their peers (not people who criticize on a blog and haven't created art of substance heard, loved, hated and debated the world over) that they are more than okay, they're allright.

You might think I'm saying that just because you haven't accomplished great things your sole opinion wouldn't matter if brought up to the band themselves.

You are right.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 11:54:00 AM

If you sync Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds and Helter Skelter you wind up killing the LaBiancas

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 11:56:00 AM

ANOTHER TIP: Set the sample rate for Wings for Marie to 44500 to slightly compress the song, then all the beats and lyrics from 10,000 will match up.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 12:00:00 PM

No, this is not real. This is lame. It sounds like shit and has absolutley no relevance.

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CrittendenIV : Mon Jun 19, 12:12:00 PM

I am in looooove... have been a Tool fan since '96 and saw them in Chicago for the first time a few weeks ago and will never miss a chance to see them again. From Opiate onward, no other band's music or lyrics come close to moving me like Tool does. Long live the band, they are brilliant!

Anyone else think Rosetta Stoned is a sequel of sorts to Faaip de Oiad?

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dreamgirl : Mon Jun 19, 12:49:00 PM

If Tool did it on purpose, it would be perfect. This much we know. they're perfectionists. So it's a coincidence, or a 23 echo, or a Fnord, whatever you want to call it. And as such it is eminently more interesting than had it been done on purpose.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 02:02:00 PM

I can do you one better. Rip/download/find Jerry Reed's original version of Amos Moses, and Primus' cover of the same song. Play them at the same time, and they sync up perfectly, except that Primus adds an extra measure or two near the end. That's more impressive to me than the fact that parts 1 and 2 of a Tool song match up. Hell, it's probably an exact repetition.

Tool's good. Don't be a troll. If you want to talk about shitty metal, let's talk about System of a Down. Doesn't mean I don't love it.

yeti

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 02:14:00 PM

Funny funny.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 02:37:00 PM

Heh, you got dug. Digg and (more importantly) the emo's who frequent it, hate the rest of the internet. It's a fact. The best thing you can do is block links from the domain.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 02:54:00 PM

you are all funny as hell with the banter..
tool is phenomenal case closed.

chances are you can take 80% of 4/4 rythem songs and try this and something is bound to work.

remember playing pink floyd to the wizard of oz? and yeah im soooo sure that was there intention for it to sync perfect with the movie. pleeeze!!

i expect anyone who critisizes music they dont prefer to publish their own works and lest ye be judged.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 02:58:00 PM

The funny thing is, I haven't particularly cared about TOOL in about 10 years, but I love the first 3/4 of this. If this is what they actually sound like now I might actually buy the record, although I'm not sure if I want the packaging anywhere near my house. Some of you apparently think the DaVinci Code is a documentary, but the song is actually pretty cool.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 03:52:00 PM

this is bullshit. tried it....unless you edit it every few bars it falls off time over and over again. nice try though.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 04:57:00 PM

Someone up top suggested sampling Wings for Marie to 44500. It appears that makes quite a difference...the lyrics are in the same sections of the song towards the end (all 3) from Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days, yet the lyrics themselves are only slightly different (and rhyme as well). I highly, highly doubt this is mere coincidence. It seems to me that this was thought out considering the relation to the package art (which I thought was highly unique).

As a recent Tool fan I can see why some people are bashing this and/or Tool. I only started to really feel their music roughly a year or so ago. I am impressed though common sense tells me that this was at least, somewhat planned out. Whether or not it has been done for isn't the real discussion.

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Frankie B : Mon Jun 19, 07:06:00 PM

"Did you just say Tool sucks? WTF do you listen to, pop-punk?!"

Yes, the only possible choices are Tool or pop-punk.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 07:21:00 PM

You people are idiots. This isn't an intentional secret song, it's evidence that Tool shows no originality in their music. If their songs sound the same, build in the same places, etc. it's because they're the same fucking song with a couple things changed around.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 07:41:00 PM

Tool = The Pink Floyd of our generation. Bottom line.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:24:00 PM

Ironically, this comments section has been seemingly overrun by a bunch of tools...

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 08:54:00 PM

This is intentional, it really has to be, the songs were in 4/4 time I would think so, but they aren't, they in like fricken 4/12. Plus Tool rules when it comes to album easter egg's they always have

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exipolar : Mon Jun 19, 09:13:00 PM

This is freakin amazing!!! 100% on purpose, no doubt in my mind.

I have put together 2 versions that you can download. I will explain in far greater detail tomorrow.

once you listen to this, it will give you shivers. 3, 9 minute songs coming together perfectly. wow

http://tool.wordpress.com/

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 11:17:00 PM

Tool is a great band, but there is no revalation here. Only 10,000 Days is a real song. The other two are mostly interludes.

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Anonymous : Mon Jun 19, 11:25:00 PM

Tool rock. They are intelligent excellent musicians. For me, they've pretty much rekindled the whole point of metal. Fabulous and amazing. Anyone who doesn't like them needs their fuckin head examining. Quality resonates. Pure and simple.

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Anonymous : Tue Jun 20, 05:31:00 AM

this is definitely intentional and not a coincidence. those of you commenting on how both songs are in the same key and tempo so of course they will kind of line up-- you probably didn't listen to the mix, and you definitely aren't familiar enough with the songs to get it. there is no way that the heavy part at the end (9:14), which is the same beat for beat in both songs, would just happen to line up at the exact same moment.

on a side note, when i try to line it up i come up with 2 possibilities. 1 is to line up the heavy part at 9:14, which makes the guitar lines immediately following that part lag each other by a beat. i then lined up that part after the heavy part, which makes the heavy part lag by a beat- this might be the intention because it sounds friggin' awesome. the guitars coming out of the heavy part line up, then the end vocals lag by a beat- very cool. i haven't tried re-sampling wings yet.

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Anonymous : Tue Jun 20, 06:19:00 AM

has anybody figured out the visual puzzle in the 4 pictures of the band members (mentioned on toolband.com)?

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Anonymous : Tue Jun 20, 08:00:00 AM

just read the following from the May newsletter on tool's website, toolband.com:

"...or that "Wings for Marie", "10,000 Days" and "Viginti Tres" are meant to be synched (played together) to make a super 'hidden' track..."

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Anonymous : Tue Jun 20, 10:28:00 AM

It's not fu*king 4/12.. Try 6/8 for a time signature and really after listening to it for a while I think that you've all managed to convince yourselves of something that is pure coinicidence. I've been a tool fan since OGT times and I have to say that I think you're reading too much into this. This doesn't really flow at all. Even if you manage to match the time signatures (which with tool tends to be 6/8) the tempo isn't the same between the two songs. The two songs are tied together - since the topics are the same. Two songs dealing with Maynard's Moms death. Final verdict: It's too sloppy for Tool - they would have implimented it better.

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Anonymous : Tue Jun 20, 10:30:00 AM

dude- 4/12 time doesn't even exist (4 beats per measure, 12th note gets the beat? what the hell is a 12th note??). and for someone who's been a tool fan forever, most of their music is definitely NOT in 6/8. Most of their music is polyrhythmic- meaning multiple time signatures overlap- for ex, playing 4/4 time over 6/8-- every 12 beats the rhythm lines up again. tool has also been known to use very unique time sig's. for ex, "schism" switches between 5/8 and 7/8, "right in two" is in 11/8 (as are a few other parts of songs- tool loves 11 time). i have counted 5, 7, 9, 11, 4, 6 time in different tool songs, frequently with different instruments overlapping time sig's- hence the polyrhythm.

and the odds of these songs lining up at that exact moment are very low. this is not coincidental. also, see the above post about their May newsletter.

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Anonymous : Tue Jun 20, 11:20:00 AM

I don't know a LOT about time signature but I do know that Tool has always used mad transitions, multiple times in their songs... thanks to the time sig. master above for explaining it all.

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toolicious51 : Tue Jun 20, 11:32:00 AM

All you Tool freaks remember the GREAT Tool song 'Hush'...and let the flamers say what they want to...even if they are (not) serious.

BTW, Cool track mega-mix. Sounds great here!

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stretch : Tue Jun 20, 01:33:00 PM

listening to it now, seems alright. long time tool fan myself but a few observations.

- most people who claim to be OGT (from back in 92, the first ep) are full of shit. hooker with a penis is about you.

- a lot of tool haters out there. it's been like that for ages but they can never seem to come up with a comparible alternative. you may not listen to pop-punk, but what do you listen to?

- that maynard fucking up video was pretty funny.

- thanks for the track and the banter. music is for enjoyment, internet flaming is for idiots and teenagers (or combinations thereof).

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Anonymous : Tue Jun 20, 02:44:00 PM

the secret dark by www.rocknica.com

http://rapidshare.de/files/23613453/12_Secret_Track__10_000_days_.mp3.htm

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fher : Tue Jun 20, 09:08:00 PM

Is it just me, or is Sifter about the only one making sense here? ("Mission accomplished!": W.B. Iraq- WOOT!)
I understand everyone's trying to have the last word here, and (in the end) only continuing the course of conversation, of course.
But I would remind you all that: (all "Da Vinci Code"/Golden Ratio/Fibonacci Sequence/William Burroughsesque "23" syncronicity/PerfectCircleEarthGodessWorshippingBull$#!%, aside) the first "hidden" song that Tool ever produced on "Opiate" was entitled: "Maynard's Dick".
I would also note that Tool's most successful and seminal work, "Aenima" was a comedy album centered around the gruesome and psychedelically cynical philosophies of comedian, Bill Hicks. (Sardonically culminated in the "Eulogy" song-lyrics: "Get of your #!%@ing cross... we need the space to nail the next fool martyr")
This is not a band nor a 'front-man' to take seriously, nor literally.
Life's just a grand practical joke. You're either in on it and contibuting to it, or arguing with blog-trolls and fan-boys on some innane web post of no consequence.
I would further remind you all that 'Maynard'-James-Whatever is sitting on a porch over-looking his vine-yard in Arizona sipping some vintage of Cabernet laughing his ass off at this whole anticipated ordeal of debate.

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Mirroe_HAHAAHAH_rirroM : Wed Jun 21, 12:57:00 AM

HAHAH HATER!! MOST OF YOU MAKE NO SENSE ON TRYING TO DOG ON TOOL.. NO SENSE AT ALL SO STOP TYRING TO MAKE ALL THE OTHER TOOL FANS MAD.. Why are you here anyway? go listen to Haste the day and underoath. and senses fail.. ur still here posting about tool. Leave. u gays..

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Anonymous : Wed Jun 21, 01:14:00 AM

HAHAH HATER!! MOST OF YOU MAKE NO SENSE ON TRYING TO DOG ON TOOL.. NO SENSE AT ALL SO STOP TYRING TO MAKE ALL THE OTHER TOOL FANS MAD.. Why are you here anyway? go listen to Haste the day and underoath. and senses fail.. ur still here posting about tool. Leave. u gays..

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Anonymous : Wed Jun 21, 01:15:00 AM

Sigh... Silly monkeys...

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Anonymous : Wed Jun 21, 04:41:00 AM

SIFTER-

YOU IRRITATING CUP OF PISS, WHAT IS THE POINT IN WRITING WITH CAPS LOCK???

It makes you look like a twat. Besides, most music out ther IS shit...no quarms about it. For example, did anybody see britains entry to the 2006 eurovision song contest?

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Anonymous : Wed Jun 21, 03:29:00 PM

Really, now. Are there in actuality only 3 posters with a modicum of intelligence on this site?

If you do not like or listen to the band TOOL, why are you insisting your opinion be heard? How were you able to find this post in the first place, since the subject was obvious and could not have possibly have interested you?

Do not make any comments about the topic, and simply let those who ARE interested in the contents of this posting discuss it without the consistant distraction of your intentional and imflammatory barbs.

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Akage : Wed Jun 21, 11:11:00 PM

This is getting rather boring now, I did it and posted about it because It sounded good, not because Tool are guitar gods. All 12 year olds, please invest your time in something more useful than telling others how much a band rocks or sucks, like, maybe learn to spell?

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spo0nman : Wed Jun 21, 11:19:00 PM

I'll agree with akage for $#!*'s-and-giggles. (Always had a thing for red-heads)
But I would counter that without, say: 'Sifter' or all the other 'anonymous's' interruptory input to the conversation: We're just waxing musical aesthetic and philosophically wanking, independant of actual real-life cultural validity. (Kind of like when Bertrand Russel broke down all the inconsistancies between physics and mathematics in "Principa Mathematica" and reconstructed the whole mess from 1's and 0's.)
But back to Tool's 10,000 days......
I'm currently experimenting with sequentially synchronizing different songs on the album over one-another.
I've got this wild idiot theory that the band actually bothered to mathematically syncopate every track on the album over one-another a la "Laterus". Any thoughts?

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Mirroe_HAHAAHAH_rirroM : Thu Jun 22, 12:29:00 AM

sounds good if you use the left channel from 10000 days and the right of wings, gets a nice stereo echo effect at the end. Though ill admit it seems as if this is more a coincedence than anything else.

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Anonymous : Thu Jun 22, 06:25:00 AM

can anyone help with audacity? when i import the songs and hit play all i get is 3 seconds of squibbling... like extreme fast forward or something...

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Anonymous : Thu Jun 22, 02:44:00 PM

You have to properly rip and encode the song in .MP3 format, anonymous; which is very technical and tedious. (especially if configuring Audacity in Windows xp)

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Mirroe_HAHAAHAH_rirroM : Fri Jun 23, 12:04:00 AM

The underlying (and overt) singular theme of "10,000 Days" seems to me to be of a death and a burying of all that has inspired, and transpired, in the author's ('Maynard' James Keenan's) previous works (From Tool to Perfect Circle) culminated by the death of his mother.
The sexual-shift and emotional release he expressed through Perfect Circle, combined with the awckward 'anti-war' bent the band took before it ended: really amounted to nothing. "Yes, we're still in Iraq", and "No, noone really gives a $#!%". No grande Grungesque cultural movement. Just a petered out Curt Cobain-esque death via the apathy of the audience.
All of "10,000 Days" intentionally over-produced Magnum Opus song tracks, all the little mathematic song time ratios, and the cool-device-like CD packaging: is meant to be just a trite little collection smoke and mirrors to weed out the idiots who don't bother to question and examine things.

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Mirroe_HAHAAHAH_rirroM : Fri Jun 23, 12:48:00 AM

"dude- 4/12 time doesn't even exist (4 beats per measure, 12th note gets the beat? what the hell is a 12th note??"

4/12 time sig really exists. i would say it's very common and there's nothing that makes it strange so don't confuse. you don't have to use it as well as you can write all stuff in 4/4 if you like. sometimes it's better to write 4/12 instead of just 4/6. depends of the tempo mostly. there are even such odd time sigs (which you rock fan never experienced) as 4/11. seems impossible?. you guy should be more interested in what is happening in avant garde music and then say something about rhythm. i thin tool's use of rhythm is preety intelligent. i'm glad you can undersatand it. 10,000 days was a joyfull experience when listening to it for the first time. i was attracted by the variety of rhythms and wrote all interesting stuff happening in song constructions on a piece of paper. i will probably listen to it again although it won't be a surprise. i prefer to discover new music than just listen to the same songs again. damn i play it again now but this time it's a soundtrack to type writing and i don't pay much attention to it. that's only case when i can still enjoy easy listening music i've already listened to attentively - use it as an ambient noise. btw i will see them performing in katowice on june 24 so i hope they are good live!

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danny : Fri Jun 23, 03:43:00 AM

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Stop giving each other grief. Its just music. admittedly far more advanced than your average tune-to-get-your-sister-to-cut-your-fringe-to-music. Tool do things that other people just dont have the patience to do. Create extended passages of highly detailed and beautifully textured music. Rather than bang out a 3 1/2 minute catchy feel good hit. Both have their place, but evidently one is far superior to the other. After all, the more detailed and more lovingly crafted a song/tune/peice of music is, the longer it lasts for. CASE AND POINT: The great composers (Mozart, Bach, Beethoven etc...) Their music lives on and will do forever because of the time that they took over their craft. Most people can't even sing a Beatles tune all the way through.

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Anonymous : Fri Jun 23, 02:01:00 PM

I think it would be pretty dick of Tool to put something like this on a cd and then sue people for figuring it out. Don't worry.

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Anonymous : Fri Jun 23, 06:29:00 PM

Is it just me.. or do 95% of the people who posted here sound like idiots?

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Dark Chili : Fri Jun 23, 09:01:00 PM

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Mirroe_HAHAAHAH_rirroM : Sat Jun 24, 02:16:00 AM

I think that 95% of the people in here are idiots.
An 'idiot', in archaic English medicinal schools, means a person of mental handicap. This is derived from the vile French semanticism of the Latin: "IDIOTA" meaning: 'ignorant person'; which is derived from the Greek word: "IDIOTES" meaning: "a private person" (i.e. DE-prives their self from all the world. r.e. Latin- 'withdrawn from public life').
All of which finds root in the greek term, "Idios" meaning: "one's own> to own and cultivate one's land and never reach beyond your territory".
So, sure; I think that 95-odd-% of the posters here are idiots killing monkeys killing monkeys; myself and yourself included, dark chili.
So 'cut right in two' just like a Gordian Knot.
(But I digress back to the really cool synchronized tracks of "10,000 Days", all..........)

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Mirroe_HAHAAHAH_rirroM : Sat Jun 24, 02:19:00 AM

Danny, you have some very odd ideas about time signatures. Here's the theory, as simply as I can put it:

The number on top refers to the number of beats per bar. The number on the bottom refers to the "length" of each beat (primarily just the type of note used to mark it in sheet music).

4/4, the most common time signature in modern popular music, has four beats per bar, and each beat is what Brits and Aussies call a "crotchet" and Americans call a "quarter note". A waltz is in 3/4 - three beats per bar, one crotchet per beat. In high school music classes, you learn that -/4 times are "simple time".

Another very common time signature is 6/8. In this case there are six beats per bar (usually grouped into threes) and each beat is a quaver (eighth note) rather than a crotchet. Anything -/8 is formally known as "compound time". Another common one in popular music is 12/8, which is the compound equivalent of 4/4 - twelve quavers in four groups of three (usually, anyway).

I have seen -/16 time at least once (17/16 as I recall - seventeen semiquavers per bar, in The Ascent Music from Picnic at Hanging Rock) but it is unusual to see anything on the bottom of the time signature other than a power of 2 (2, 4, 8, 16, etc) just because there is no simple way to write the duration for each beat.

A good intro to time signatures is here:

http://www.musictheory.halifax.ns.ca/13ts.html

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DexX : Sat Jun 24, 06:58:00 AM

good effort mate, but you must have been hiiiiiigh ;)

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Anonymous : Tue Jun 27, 02:39:00 PM

"4/12 time sig really exists"

um... no it doesn't. As DexX said, the bottom number is what type of note takes up one beat (the top number is how many beats). for example, 4/4 time is 4 beats per measure with a quarter note taking up one beat. 6/8 time is 6 beats per measure with an eighth note taking up one beat.

i assume when you say that 4/12 time exists, you mean that 12/4 time exists (which it does)- i.e. 12 beats in a measure. 4/11 time also doesn't exist but 11/4 time does. get it?

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Anonymous : Wed Jun 28, 11:11:00 AM

The thing that I find most incisive about the cool little device-like "10,000 Days" album: is that the "tool" promotional logo (in geometric and calligraphic structure) resembles the word "fool".
All the little stereoscopic, and track synchronization gimmicks on the album are just parlor tricks:
The metaphorical death and culmination and elucidation of an artist who has said all that she/he has to say.
And that's all.
What's your answer?

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Anonymous : Wed Jun 28, 10:46:00 PM

hrm, I put of getting this album for a long time.

Anyway I'm not sure how I exactly ended up at this thread, but Ill put forward my conspiracy theory.

Viginti Tres + Wings for Marie + 10,000 Days originally started off as one song.

They split the song into 2 halves

A: Viginti Tres + Wings for Marie
B: 10,000 Days

thats why when you add the song lengths, they match up
but having Viginti Tres as the 3rd song on the album, really kills the flow of the CD, so they lopped it off and stuck it on the end of the CD :o

but when you spend more then 30sec and think about it

Viginti Tres doesnt flow into Wings for Marie, even if they intentionally faded out, it doesnt work at all :(

Also you have to admit that when you layer the tracks onto one another it sounds like arse

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loki` : Fri Jun 30, 11:03:00 PM

Indeed...all of you who tnk this is intentional are delusional and caught up in the excitement of the possibility. It sounds like compete shite and the tempos are off so bad...tht it makes the mix....well...stupid. Dont worry..one you come down off the acid...it will all make sense again.

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Anonymous : Fri Jun 30, 11:36:00 PM

did anyone notice MJK admitted this was intentional?

"Granted, these people of relative affluence might not 'know' that 10.000 Days is merely a decoy album like you do, or that "Wings for Marie", "10,000 Days" and "Viginti Tres" are meant to be synched (played together) to make a super 'hidden' track"

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Anonymous : Sat Jul 01, 03:37:00 AM

Where the fuck is that quoted from?

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Dark Chili : Mon Jul 03, 06:36:00 PM

Hey so I just listened to the so-called "megamix" that was posted at the top of the board and I'm not super impressed.

On poster said that it's highly unlikely that these songs just happen to sync up the way they do (I think he was referring to the syncing up of the end of the mix, in particular)... that's true, but that doesn't neccessarily mean their meant to played together as part of one large megamix.

The repetion and variation of a theme or collection of themes within a single piece of music is a staple of music composition, especially in long-format songs like the ones that tool produces. Given that Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days were probably written as one 18 minute song, it makes sense that certain parts of the song are structurally similar. The that this causes parts of the song to line up when played concurrently is interesting, but probably doesn't indicate some hidden "master plan" by the artist, esp. since certain parts of the overlay don't sound good. (I'm thinking of the the protracted guitar solo towards the end of the mix, in particular.)

This isn't a fault against Tool, by any means. Composing songs as long as Wings for Marie is very difficult, and the fact that they manage to do so on a regular basis, and make the repetition of certain parts feel meaningful says a lot for their talent and dedication to music.

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Anonymous : Mon Jul 03, 06:49:00 PM

(same as one above) and as for that quote... c'mon, stop stoking the fire. That's total flamebaiting.

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Anonymous : Mon Jul 03, 06:54:00 PM

The number 23 theory with this song has to be true. If you sync up the riffs at 9:14, the riff you get is a 23 count riff(Which means you will tap your hand/foot 23 times before it ends. You also get 23 if you add 9 and 14.

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Anonymous : Fri Jul 07, 03:23:00 AM

The Band's May 2006 Newsletter

"Granted, these people of relative affluence might not 'know' that 10.000 Days is merely a decoy album like you do, or that "Wings for Marie", "10,000 Days" and "Viginti Tres" are meant to be synched (played together) to make a super 'hidden' track,"

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Anonymous : Fri Jul 07, 05:47:00 PM

Tool are musical geniouses. There is no other band quite like them, Maynard is a very intellegent man, as is evident in his music. He puts music forward not just as it is, but as an art.

Also, you'll find that most people who have a problem with 'Tool' or say they're not all they're cracked up to be - Are often narrowly music minded people. As every decent musician I know, even if they may not particularly enjoy that style, - Absolutley respect Tool for the geniouses they are.

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Jake : Sat Jul 08, 02:01:00 AM

If you are interested in syncing, play Pink Floyd's "Echoes" -(Meddle) at the start of the third part of Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey (Jupiter and the Infinite Beyond).
2001 came out in 1968, Meddle in 1971. Kubrick is on record as stating that his only regret about the movie is not getting Pink Floyd for the soundtrack (the studio wouldn't let him). This is nothing like the Wizard of Oz sync, Jupiter and the Infinite Beyond and Echoes have the exact same length, and the music matches up perfectly the entire time. Have fun :-)

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Anonymous : Tue Jul 11, 08:18:00 AM

I can't believe I read so much of a thread that included a myspace link. No wonder I wasn't impressed by much of the interaction, but it was like a car accident, so it took some effort to look away.

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Anonymous : Sun Jul 16, 07:57:00 PM

Tool is the greatest band... ever. If you've never experienced "it," don't hate.

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Joe : Wed Jul 19, 08:27:00 PM

This is pretty cool. Sync's pretty well.

Anyways thanks for the heads up.

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Anonymous : Thu Jul 20, 04:14:00 PM

First and fore most, big ups on the find... I find it not a surprise that this album would have more to it than the nifty alex grey artwork and 3d imagery. Its great to know that in a world of commercial sheep making the same crap that appeals to guys who look more BITCH than some women, there is still musicians who are expanding not only through music, but through every other aspect of expression. As for the majority of the people who have a distaste for the band, i wonder, why are you on this page anyway? Its obvious that alot of these seemingly kids are unaware of the symbolism and images used by TOOL. Do the research, learn about the fionnaci sequence, buddhism, free masonry, occultism, Pranic breathing, kundalini, chakras, H.P. Blavatsky, Keneth Grant, the tibet and egyptian books of the dead, rennes le chateu, Aliester Crowley.... and stop being a follower of trends. A TOOL critic under the age of 20 probably hasn't live or learned enough in life to follow through with the consistant path of knowledge that is being dropped by this band. If you don't like tool, good, great, but why bother commenting on something you have no understanding about...

yes, it is a free country, (well to a degree and probably not for long!!), to rant nonsensecally, but why compare TOOL to any other sucessful bands when they are in a catagory on their own.....

this is GROWN PEOPLE MUSIC!!

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Anonymous : Wed Jul 26, 08:15:00 PM

The sync is really incredible. Definitely a thing TOOL would do; very impressive, indeed. It was tough to get the songs lined up perfectly but it worked out; it only leaves me wanting more. Can't wait another 5 years for TOOL to release another masterpiece with hidden secrets (easter eggs, if you will).
P.S. C'mon, a lot of this thread was spent ranting about how much people love TOOL or hate TOOL. That's not what the form is about, kids. Just ease up on that. TOOL is an awesome band that should be respected, if nothing else. If you don't like them or don't listen casually, it doesn't mean you have to hate them. Just respect them, as you would traditional metal bands (even if you don't listen to them).

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Anonymous : Thu Jul 27, 11:56:00 PM

It comes down to the drummer. How many of you fucks that talk shit can even play drums?

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Anonymous : Fri Jul 28, 10:32:00 PM

You can do this with 46and2 on aenima and it comes out perfectly. To do it you do the same thing you did with 10,000 days but with
14 (-) Ions,12 Cesaro Summability, and 04 Useful Idiot. This makes me wonder if they did this for every cd. Here's the one i mixed
http://punkmetalx.tripod.com/forty6n2mixed.mp3

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AlexScreeton : Mon Aug 07, 07:45:00 PM

Tool are great,you ve spent too much bits and bites for this silly and annoying conversation!

tool are just a band,nothing important,but they rule..Byez nerds

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Anonymous : Thu Aug 10, 09:21:00 AM

Fuck what a bunch of shit!

The secret song is amazing and I was so happy unitl I went to see if anyone found any others from other albums. You fuckin buzzkillers need to find a life or eat a knife.

Awesome, I'm going to show it to my girlfriend and then never coming back to this place.

Yes, I said "girlfriend" you Tool-bashing, high-horse, "I am the only one who knows music and everyone else is wrong" motherfuckers! And don't think that evryone doesn't know that you fuckers who bringdown people talking about something they love are the saddest, fucking lonely, miserable pukes. Because if you had some love and importance in your life you would not seek out that which you do not like. Never once have I gone on a Good Charlotte board and bitched about them, and it would be FUCKING EASY!

So, FUCK YOU hating wastes of acne.

And TOOL fans I love you, and don't forget how lucky we are that there is a band this amazing in the universe, I won't.

Zach

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Anonymous : Thu Aug 10, 04:02:00 PM

Give it a rest with arguing all the time. Chill the fuck out.

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Anonymous : Sat Aug 12, 05:52:00 PM

more meaning for the disc dude!!
10x 4 the info

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gaiardo : Sat Aug 12, 11:38:00 PM

Nothing that TOOL does is coincidence. And I agree that TOOL's older albums are much better than the new more proggy shit. Undertow.

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Anonymous : Tue Aug 15, 05:41:00 PM

Tool Pwnz J00!

h4t3rz == n00bz

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Antimatt3r : Sun Aug 20, 09:39:00 PM

'a message of hope for those who chose to hear it and a warning for those who do not.' get it?

it simply baffles me that anyone would waste their time arguing about bands they know truly suck. it's like turning on the radio then bitching that they never play anything good. the solution is simple. leave it off. tune out background noise. tool needs no defense. some amongst us simply havn't evolved to the point of being able to hear music with more than their ears.

for me, 10,000 Days connected with me more emotionally than any of their previous albums. i'm not saying it's better or worse, but simply a progression, or perhaps a regression towards being human in contrast to Lateralus which seemed almost god-like in its technicality and instructiveness. 10,000 days certainly does maintain some masterful musicianship, yet definately resonates a more primal, earthbound tone. reminding us, perhaps, that we still have a long way to go...?

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Anonymous : Mon Aug 21, 10:41:00 PM

Given an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of typewrites in an infinite timespace, they will produce the works of Shakespeare.

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Anonymous : Tue Sep 05, 11:24:00 AM

Tool is an awsome band and they are very talented musicians. -Merph

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Anonymous : Thu Sep 14, 02:56:00 PM

POOPIES!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Anonymous : Wed Sep 27, 04:55:00 PM

"Given an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of typewrites in an infinite timespace, they will produce the works of Shakespeare."
But how many monkeys would it take to write sick beats like danny carey?

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Anonymous : Mon Nov 13, 10:44:00 AM

Everytime I import the songs they play rediculously fast and its just a second long sound and its driving me insane!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh

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Gummy : Fri Dec 15, 10:16:00 AM

i love tool...this is nothing new...makes for some interesting banter between the masses tho...10,000 Days was the first album i've bought in a long time and i would've have preferred something heavier...more like undertow...the very fact that tool puts so much thought into every nuance of what they do is worth studying...it's bound to touch everybody differently just like some prefer blue to red...

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Anonymous : Tue Dec 19, 08:42:00 PM

i heard about this a long time ago and thought it was total bullshit back then. but theres nothing to do today so i thought id try to rearrange the tracks myself (the track i listened to before was done by someone). ok - check it. this is still total bullshit. wings is an intro to 10,000 days, and that is why they sound so damn similiar. guess what? they re-use entire sections from wings in 10,000 days.

i like tool. they are probably my favorite band, and definitely my favorite band for their genre - whichever genre that may be. but unfortunately viginti tres is nothing most than another useful idiot.

the nickelback arguement is that 2 seemingly entirely different songs used the exact same chord progressions and transitions as the other, and they essentially use a pre-defined structure to write all their songs. doing this with wings/10,000 days is not the same. making the same arguement for tool would be like taking H. and having it match up with Bottom, or some other completely different song. this will NEVER happen with tool songs - and here's why. the bastards in this band (i love them, but they are all assholes for doing what im about to say) have a very hard time playing anything but music with really fucked up rhythms and time measures. none of their songs will sound the same because they cant decide on a damn format they all like to play it.

and on the emo thing. i dont like emo music, but the music has a right to exist. emo kids, on the other hand, need to be exterminated immediately.

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Anonymous : Fri Dec 29, 05:52:00 PM

Since when was rock and roll ever about being intelligent? Opinions are like assholes everyone's got one and they all stink.(Quoted by an old man)So,some people have a degree in Fine Art or music interpretation does that mean that an average joe can't enjoy what he or she appreciate's? Life has its way of making me jaded but I still like cranking up my guitar and making a bunch of racket that sound good to me FTW. Yea I spent the cash for the album and it is worth it to me. If you like it well we got something to talk about it you hate it fine enjoy whatever you get into.

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Anonymous : Sun Jan 14, 12:07:00 AM

All music pushes boundaries, just in different ways. You are all entitled to your own opinions about what you are hearing. And we really shouldn't be so attached to bands we like that we waste time and energy arguing over them. I know people who like emo, techno, Nickelback, and Tool. Who cares. Love your own music, let everyone else do the same.

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art.not.war : Tue Jan 23, 12:59:00 PM

For what it's worth, I'm a Tool fan, and I don't think this sounds fantastic... other than Viginti Tres fitting in pretty well with 10,000 Days, this seems to just have its moments... maybe I'm not doing it right? The "heavy" bits in particular doesn't seem to occur together.

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Anonymous : Thu Feb 22, 04:05:00 PM

Kids..

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Anonymous : Mon Mar 12, 09:32:00 AM

I shit the bed again

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Anonymous : Tue Mar 13, 09:22:00 AM

typical!

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Anonymous : Thu Mar 15, 03:02:00 PM

can anyone post a version of the supertrack, non of teh links above work. thanks

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Anonymous : Thu Mar 22, 07:59:00 AM

Just remember kids, every time you mudsling them by saying "Tool sucks" eventually your going to say that to someone who has never heard of them. That will create the curiosity for them to find out who they are, and potentially create another one of us. A new fan. So keep talking shit, your just making sure that my favorite band keeps making money and keeps pumping out albums.

So, from the bottom of my heart, I thank all the "Tool haters".

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Anonymous : Sat Mar 24, 11:58:00 AM

Im SOOOO FUCKIN GLAD THAT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WHO APPRECIATE TOOL's GENIUS MUSIC.

I only write in Capitals so that people will read it lolz.

ANYWAYS I SYNCED THE THREE SONGS TOGETHER, MOVED THEM ROUND A LIL BIT PERFECTLY.

IT SYNCS PERFECTLY WHEN IT GETS HEAVY TILL THE END THEY START TO ECHO EACH OTHER LOLz.

"God damn, Shit the bed"

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E-98 : Wed Apr 11, 01:16:00 AM

Everyone who really listens to Tool knows they are awesome. Everyone who is curious about how the three songs sound when mashed together should buy the CD and download Audacity for free and experiment. If you like Tool, playying with there music is fun whether or not it sounds perfect in the end or not, so JUST DO IT, do it NOOOWWW!!!

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Anonymous : Sat Apr 21, 09:53:00 PM

Me being a bassist in a band, I can understand some of the musical talents of these guys (tool) sure there a bit weird, and the electric guitar work is anything that will make you go 'Wow'. But the time signitures in there songs and how they can actually make rock music in 6/7 and 8/9 signature tells of a very musicaly talented band. And their bassist Justin Chancellor is the originater of diads played on bass, and in my opinoun the best bassist in rock music today, that doesnt just root note the whole time (blink 182s mark hoppus....). And to say Tool sux is fine, you just have differnt musical taste, but to say there not talented is what is stupid.

Kevin-

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Anonymous : Sun May 06, 03:53:00 PM

new link, i mixed the 3 tracks.

[url]http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/-1101031608/10000_das_para_Mara.rar[/url]

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Frank Boston : Mon May 14, 12:31:00 AM

wow, is anyone here a real musician. Your opinions are, well, just that; opinions. The amount of stupidity that abounds here is astounding. Tool are great arrangers, composers, musicians and artists. who cares what you bunch of toothless idiots think.
They use the same form structure as everyone else. same as floyd. same as zepp. same as debusy and beethoven and all the rest. so to all the haters, pull a tube, light some candles, invite your girl/boy friend over, put it on turn it up and explore the questions that arise....
everything, ALL MUSIC, has its place.

P e a c e

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Anonymous : Tue May 22, 04:31:00 PM

most people here are not musicians obviously. time signatures can only have multiples of 2 on the bottom, ie: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 for the mentally challenged.

no shit wings for marie syncs with 10,000 days. did you ever try listening to the songs by themselves? they are a single composition split into two tracks. hence the fucking pts. 1 and 2.

this article is pretty embarassing for tool fans.

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oscar : Tue Jun 26, 02:08:00 AM

"To the tool haters: You may say you hate tool and hate their fans and such, but you're still here commenting about them. Why? Why not say nothing at all and let it be if you despise them so?
Sounds like jealousy to me."

How's that quote go? "Love me or Hate me, it's still an obsession."???? Is that right? and um... Hate to *PoP that little bubble of your's... but... For any flamer, no matter where you stand, INDIFFERENCE is the the opposite of love... just.... think about that... (the implications are vast)

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Anonymous : Wed Jun 27, 04:34:00 AM

"Think for yourself, ..." - Tim Leary

"No Bad Religion song can make your life complete" -Greg Graffin 'bad religion - no direction'

"But music is there without you or me we just manipulate it, for better or worse. So let it situate" -Deltron3030 'Madness'

"I want you to go find a SOUL! GO See Modona you idiot piece of shit drunk cunt!" - Bill Hicks

"You see, I think drugs have done some good things for us, I really do. And if You don't think drugs have done a lot of good things for us? Do me a favor, go home tonight take all your albums all your tapes and all your cd's and burn em! Cuz you know what? THe musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years...wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeee REal fuckin high on drugs." - Bill hicks

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Anonymous : Wed Jun 27, 04:49:00 AM

to the anonymous talking shit. the members of tool are both amazing artists and minds. you obviously have no understanding of actual music. tool does not have reoccuring downbeats and simple guitar effects so that the simple minded fuckoffs like you can follow it. it takes an actual brain to comprehend what they are doing. something that you (which im sure was an accident on your moms side) do not have. tool takes the socially accepted limits to music and have totally blown them away. so as soon as you can play an instrument other than a flute up your ass than talk shit.

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Anonymous : Sun Jul 08, 03:08:00 PM

All i have to say, If you here talking smack on TOOL, you must have gotten here the same way I did. :) Through the research the music makes me do. Your immaturity is stunning and transparent.
Also keep in mind you can continue to compare TOOL to the many other bands, but I can't think of one who continues to release badass music after 10 years. Maybe metallica. BUT Danny carey can play like Lars. Lars can not play like Danny Carey.

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Anonymous : Fri Aug 17, 03:31:00 PM

Since when do you have to be a music teacher to listen to tool? Musicians..you guys have your heads so far up your asses, do you even play the discs anymore? Go out and re-buy Opiate, jerk off. Tool is a band that makes musical art. Their music comes packaged with visual art. Feel free to bang your head against the dashboard when you play it, or staple stereoscopic lenses to your forehead. Just PLAY it. If you choose to chase the endless trail of smoke and reason laid out, you have more than enough information in front of you to devote a LOT of time to it. To naysayers, you are dismissed. Please dont buy the show tickets either. The fans who cant go because you're there would really appreciate it. The 'Wings' tracks are intentionally recorded as an opus with painstaking attention to detail. If you dont have it figured out, welcome to the world of tool. But remember, friend...over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind..Enjoy the gift that you have been given. They spent a lot of time and energy creating it. You paid them to.
Tool is my Jesus Fucking Christ

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Anonymous : Fri Aug 17, 08:27:00 PM

What is a nickelback? I heard this word once before, when I had explosive diarrhea last month. My asshole muttered the word 'Nickelback' as i was shitting out the same old rotten, no-talent waste I always do. Catchy beat, though.

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Anonymous : Fri Aug 17, 08:51:00 PM

Will someone post a working link to this song? Or, if you are worried about being sued just send it directly to me... I want to hear it.

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TheCloser : Wed Sep 26, 01:59:00 AM

SHUT THE F(_)CK UP !!!!!!

Go back to britney spears and dont ever come here again!

If you dont like tool, why are you here in the first place?

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Anonymous : Wed Sep 26, 07:08:00 AM

I havnt been a Tool fan very long since im fairly young, 14 to be exact, but tool are one of my favourite bands, but i dont think this is a "secret super hidden track" i just think they used the same lyrics and riffs to tie the 2 songs together, I have a wide variety in music, and progressive rock/metal would have to be one of my favourites.

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Anonymous : Fri Nov 02, 07:03:00 PM

"and so while all of you may think tool is a band of musical geniuses, you're dead wrong. all they are doing is appealing to your 12 year old fan-boy senses. anyone with the slightest hint of creativity could make music like this, and there's no denying it. right now, i could call up four of my friends, and make up 3 songs that synched like this, and you would praise us as gods. but no."

so... why aren't you out there making millions of dollars right now? i don't get it.

seriously though, go see tool. do some drugs before the show. your brain will turn inside out.

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migbee : Mon Dec 10, 08:36:00 PM

nice i'll see lyrics song yeaaa, and i'll be back to this blog sooon ;)

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song lyric : Sat Dec 22, 08:26:00 AM

TO THE PESON WHO FIRST WROTE DOWN THAT TOOL AND I NICKLEBACK SUCK.............NICKLEBACK DOES SUCK.......... THEY FUCKIN SUCK ALMOST AS MUCH COCK AS YOU DO BUDDY....TOOL KICKS ASS AND YOUR A LITTLE BITCH....GET THE FUCK OFF THIS SITE....PANSY

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Anonymous : Mon Dec 24, 01:35:00 AM

I love tool, but tool fans remind me of the catholic church, anyone that doesn't agree with them or questions weather another band is better then they are, tool fans go completely insane.its funny. isn't one of tools favorite quotes by Timothy Leary? "Think For yourself, Question Authority" if someone doesn't like tool or thinks they suck, its them thinking for themselves, and questioning what you think, therefor for a tool fan to become outraged at this is just immature, maybe they don't really know the message their favorite band is trying portrait, and should question their own stupidity, none the less tool are amazing artists, they wouldn't of survived as long as they did if they weren't. but honestly . grow up.

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brix : Thu Dec 27, 06:59:00 PM

just in case noone knew, these songs were written for maynard's late mother who spent nearly 10,000 days of her life paralyzed due to complications of an aneurysm earlier in her life.

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alinear : Fri Jan 11, 12:10:00 PM

Could someone upload his version?

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Anonymous : Sun Jan 13, 12:50:00 PM

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Fon : Fri Jan 25, 09:20:00 PM

watch the vidoes on youtube, http://youtube.com/watch?v=qss9NB0A3ko

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Anonymous : Tue Mar 25, 02:31:00 PM

10,023 Days (Wings, Pt. 3)

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Anonymous : Wed Mar 26, 09:39:00 PM

I just wanted to post a thank you from a huge Tool fan... and I like this music editing program too.

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Pahndora : Fri Apr 11, 08:25:00 PM

This is an older post, but after reading some of the comments on it, I couldn't not comment.

First off, I am a huge tool fan. I have been since the inceptions of the band.
While I can agree with some of what sifter said, but there is music out there that is pure crap. Nickleback, My Chemical Romance, Deathcab For Cutie, etc.
However, there are people that like these bands, and because of that fact, they are STILL out there making FAR more money than ANY of us.
People sitting here arguing over whether Tool(or any other band people argue over) is crap or not doesn't change that fact. You are simply adding the pool of publicity that these bands get. Love 'em or hate 'em, you're helping them simply by talking about them.

Why doesn't everyone shut the fuck up and live with it. There are bands out there that no one knows why they still exist(nickleback), there are bands that some love and others hate. It happens. Shut the fuck up and get on with your pathetic little life. Boo fucking hoo, someone likes a band you dont.

And the syncing thing is cool, yes. It's not exactly original, or intelligent. It is however difficult to pull off in a decent fashion. Tool is an intelligent band, Maynard is an intelligent man. Whether you like to think so or not. As a collective, the IQ of tool exceeds 700. Thats at least 12 times as high as Nickleback's, 9 times as high as My Chemical Romance, and 10 times as high as Deathcab for Cutie. And I can guarantee that the intellectual power of Maynards left asscheek is more than any of the people bashing on tool. 'Ya know why? BECAUSE HE DID SOMETHING WITH HIS LIFE INSTEAD OF SITTING IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER, TELLING PEOPLE HOW MUCH THE BANDS THEY LIKE SUCK!!! FUUCK!!

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got a gig to get to.

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Casp : Thu Jun 05, 05:34:00 AM

Ok, so the people bashing this 'hidden track' are saying Tool sucks because they've made a hidden track like this (if it's even done by them - I'm not 100% sure, though I'd like to believe it's intentional).
Someone said that he and 3 friends could make an album with 3 songs synced and they'd be worshipped like gods as well.
Honestly, have you even -listened- to the whole album? And the previous ones?
The reason (most) people like Tool is -not- that they've synced 3 songs together, but because the music is actually that great by itself.
Go listen to all 5 of their normal albums over and over.
Open your mind. Don't judge a band for adding one little feature that 'everybody can do', when their song structure, lyrics and execution of the songs are far greater than (in my opinion) everything else that's ever been made.
If you still dislike them, so be it. Go listen to whatever you like, enjoy it, and stop wasting your time whining about some band getting publicy.

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Casp : Thu Jun 05, 05:35:00 AM

Ok, so the people bashing this 'hidden track' are saying Tool sucks because they've made a hidden track like this (if it's even done by them - I'm not 100% sure, though I'd like to believe it's intentional).
Someone said that he and 3 friends could make an album with 3 songs synced and they'd be worshipped like gods as well.
Honestly, have you even -listened- to the who album? And the previous ones?
The reason (most) people like Tool is -not- that they've synced 3 songs together, but because the music is actually that great by itself.
Go listen to all 5 of their normal albums over and over.
Open your mind. Don't judge a band for adding one little feature that 'everybody can do', when their song structure, lyrics and execution of the songs are far greater than (in my opinion) everything else that's ever been made.
If you still dislike them, so be it. Go listen to whatever you like, enjoy it, and stop wasting your time whining about some band getting publicy.

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Casp : Thu Jun 05, 05:35:00 AM

I didn't have time to read this entire post, as it is very huge, but from little looking it seems it is hard to find a correct mixing of this hidden track online. The stuff on you-tube just isn't right; if it's not 11:13 (or at least within a few seconds of that) it's just not done correctly. That is because 10,000 Days should play in its entirety, and Viginti Tres and Wings Part 1 should play along side it, and well, that means the total length is that of 10,000 Days, which is 11:13.

Anyways, I made a crappy version a long time ago when I didn't know how to use mixing software, and it never sounded just right. I wasn't convinced that Tool intended it. Now that I've become a DJ (DJ Faaip @ KUCI btw; yea, I'm kind of a Tool fan...) I know how to do these things, and it really wasn't hard to create a perfect mix. Now that I hear it how it's supposed to be heard, I am absolutely 100% convinced that Tool intended this. It just sounds too good. Here's some simple instructions for creating it on your own:

In your mixing software, start 10,000 Days and Viginti Tres together immediately at 0:00. Put Wings Part 2 starting immediately after Viginti Tres, but this will not be quite right you need to move it a little bit (you end up moving it just slightly to the left.) The place where you want to line these two up is at roughly 9:14 (9+14 = 23 = Viginti Tres, hooray 10,000 Days puzzle.) This is when 10,000 Days goes really hardcore for a few measures; if you're looking this up on a blog you should know the section I'm talking about here. This is where 10,000 Days and Wings Part 1 should line up in perfect sync. It will take a little trial & error to get correctly. If you do this correctly, the part after that, the final lyric verse, will sound sort of like an echo, and the whole thing should sound pretty damn harmonic, beautiful, and impressive.

I know this has been said correctly here before, and I'm not trying to take credit for it, I just figured another recent post of the tutorial might help, since this post has grown a lot.

Finally, for those of you who don't know how to use mixing software at all, I would love to share my version with you, but greatly feared being sued by Tool. I will not just post it online. I will, however, give it to you via aim or something if you contact me. I'm giving out my hotmail because well, its already inundated with spam. I make no promises, but I will try and check it once a week. If you'd really like this version I have, e-mail me at ls1653@hotmail.com, please make the subject all caps something like "TOOL 10,000 DAYS HIDDEN TRACK." If I am convinced you are a real person, I'll give you further contact instructions.

~James, aka DJ Faaip

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James : Mon Aug 17, 11:55:00 PM

I'm sorry everyone, but I think you are all fooling yourselves. The reason they only really sync at the end is because your playing the refrain from the same song broken into two parts - the rest of the time before 9:14 it does not sync at all - so you give it up already - its not magical - its not genious - its called a refrain

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Simon Brown : Mon Sep 28, 02:05:00 PM

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